I actually find nokia app is not what I want at all. having it in the EXIF data is fine, but the main place I want my photos on the map is flickr and this is not supported here. The ONE image I was successful at tagging did not have any associated map data. boo
On another note, just how is Shozu getting the geodata that it attaches to the photos? Is there geodata attached to the photos, just not in EXIF-format? Or does Shozu look at the gps-data and match the time a photo was taken to the coordinates logged for that specific time?
"There's a smaller app called GPS Data on the N95 that you can use to keep an eye on how the GPS is doing.
I'll leave manny to explain how the GPS system works, as he knows the details better than I do."
Manny (Client Architect) says:
"Hi
The GPS feature on ShoZu tries to balance between automated geotagging of photos and battery preservation leaving ( (so not leaving GPS hardware running to long). ShoZu will attempt to get a GPS lock automatically when a photo is taken, it will try for about 10 minutes (this is how long the N95 can take to get a satellite lock), after that it gives up, once a connection is made the connection is left open for 5 minutes after the last photo was taken, this is so if someone is taking multiple photos it doesn't have to restart the GPS hardware each time, however if another application has the GPS hardware up and running ShoZu will share this connection instead. We don't cache the last know coordinate simple because we don't know how how far away from the last know position you were, even in a short time you can be miles away from the last known co-ordinate.
re-upload works ... seems it only reads the data as the photo enters the flickr system. Seems that it was very accurate as well - http://flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/2228116457/ I was at the Pleasantville train station on my way home...
I found I was pretty low on battery last night after leaving the tagger running ... anyone else? Seems like it's working harder than shozu, though may be more accurate (if it connects). I only see it working when you snap - no 10 min window.
Hmm having tried georss in Google maps I think I prefer the Flickr map. Even though the actual map isn't as good as Google's the photos are presented better.
I always found Shozu touch and go when it came to tagging and use Locr http://www.locr.com/. This tags brilliantly, looks for the tag for 5 mins on the N95 and offers the option of using the last GPS location. Also will show Geotagged photos nearby. I still upload with Shozu though because then I can upload to Flickr rather than the Locr site and subscribe to mates Flickr screens
I'll admit the Nokia solution is the answer for me - never managed to get Shozu to work properly on my N95 - it killed the video function whenever I had it installed.
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Same here, nobody has given me a good reason to move away from Shozu yet
1 year, 5 months ago by danlane
In fact the only good thing about Nokia Location Tagger is that it's made me realise that I can parse my georss feed from Flickr through Google Maps.
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
But don't you need to open Nokia Maps and or Nokia Sports Tracker first to get a GPS lock?
shaking head - I just don't get it. What's the difference between the info being in the tags and being in the EXIF?
I mean - that's not much of a difference, is it?
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
So Nokia Location Tagger embeds geodata in the EXIF? Cool!
@whatleydude: There's a couple of reasons. One being that you're then free to upload whichever way you would want and still get them geotagged.
1 year, 5 months ago by lemonad
I actually find nokia app is not what I want at all. having it in the EXIF data is fine, but the main place I want my photos on the map is flickr and this is not supported here. The ONE image I was successful at tagging did not have any associated map data. boo
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
be nice if it did both ... EXIF will work on your desktop and google earth
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
On another note, just how is Shozu getting the geodata that it attaches to the photos? Is there geodata attached to the photos, just not in EXIF-format? Or does Shozu look at the gps-data and match the time a photo was taken to the coordinates logged for that specific time?
1 year, 5 months ago by lemonad
@krazykritter: if that's the case then I will possibly like this as well... checking my settings now
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
update my settings ... but it does not work retroactively. have to try uploading that pic again
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
ShoZu Product Manager says:
"There's a smaller app called GPS Data on the N95 that you can use to keep an eye on how the GPS is doing.
I'll leave manny to explain how the GPS system works, as he knows the details better than I do."
Manny (Client Architect) says:
"Hi
The GPS feature on ShoZu tries to balance between automated geotagging of photos and battery preservation leaving ( (so not leaving GPS hardware running to long). ShoZu will attempt to get a GPS lock automatically when a photo is taken, it will try for about 10 minutes (this is how long the N95 can take to get a satellite lock), after that it gives up, once a connection is made the connection is left open for 5 minutes after the last photo was taken, this is so if someone is taking multiple photos it doesn't have to restart the GPS hardware each time, however if another application has the GPS hardware up and running ShoZu will share this connection instead. We don't cache the last know coordinate simple because we don't know how how far away from the last know position you were, even in a short time you can be miles away from the last known co-ordinate.
Hope this helps
Manny"
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
@whatleydude: Thanks so much! I think that explains exactly what I wanted to know. Cool!
1 year, 5 months ago by lemonad
@atmasphere - I went through all this yesterday afternoon on my own trying to parse my georss feed through google maps.
First enable the geotags in your flickr privacy settings and then you have to tell flickr to apply that setting retrospectively.
The latter takes a while to 'crunch the data' but it worked a treat for me...
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
@lemonad - Glad to be of assistance!
:)
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
re-upload works ... seems it only reads the data as the photo enters the flickr system. Seems that it was very accurate as well - http://flickr.com/photos/atmasphere/2228116457/ I was at the Pleasantville train station on my way home...
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
where do you tell flickr to update retroactively
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
Is it here? http://flickr.com/account/geo/import/
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
@whatleydude: thanks for the link ... that's working now...
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
I found I was pretty low on battery last night after leaving the tagger running ... anyone else? Seems like it's working harder than shozu, though may be more accurate (if it connects). I only see it working when you snap - no 10 min window.
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
@atmasphere - check my map link up there ^ - I was really impressed with the accuracy of the pics I took to be honest. All with ShoZu.
@KrazyKritter - once again, glad to help! Took me ages to work it all out yesterday - happy to share the wealth!
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
I wonder if this will soon work for video ... no EXIF to tag, but could be very cool if there was a way
1 year, 5 months ago by atmasphere
Have you guys tried taking the georss feed and putting it through googlemaps yet?
Oh it's good...
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
No, because flickr's interface is terrible and it's never immediately obvious where to look for such things!
1 year, 5 months ago by danlane
Go to your main photo page, at the bottom where the RSS options are.. it's there!
At the bottom of this page for me.
Take that and stick it in the search box of google maps.
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
Ahhh I was looking at my map page... because, y'know... logic.
1 year, 5 months ago by danlane
Logic + Flickr (A Yahoo Company).
You are Dan Lane right?
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
I must have assumed that the fuckwittery was reserved for Yahoo Go but it appears to have crept over to Flickr too :(
1 year, 5 months ago by danlane
Maybe it's contagious.
Best not use Yahoo Go ever again.
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
Hmm having tried georss in Google maps I think I prefer the Flickr map. Even though the actual map isn't as good as Google's the photos are presented better.
1 year, 5 months ago by danlane
lol @KrazyKritter - thanks for the clarification!
:)
1 year, 5 months ago by whatleydude
I always found Shozu touch and go when it came to tagging and use Locr http://www.locr.com/. This tags brilliantly, looks for the tag for 5 mins on the N95 and offers the option of using the last GPS location. Also will show Geotagged photos nearby. I still upload with Shozu though because then I can upload to Flickr rather than the Locr site and subscribe to mates Flickr screens
1 year, 5 months ago by WaveyDavey001
The manual for the Symbian software for Locr can be found here http://www.locr.com/clients/manual/locrGPSPhotoforSymbian-%20ManualENV122.pdf . I presume that the geotag info is put into the Exif info, but I'm not an expert with this. The co-ordinates are recorded on my Flickr photos though. http://www.flickr.com/photos/waveydavey001/
1 year, 5 months ago by WaveyDavey001
Oh you almost do read the comments sometimes over there.. ;)
1 year, 5 months ago by R200
I'll admit the Nokia solution is the answer for me - never managed to get Shozu to work properly on my N95 - it killed the video function whenever I had it installed.
1 year, 5 months ago by ocifant
@krazykritter, one of the big differences I noticed in the change was the swap out of Google Maps for Yahoo Maps... that's one of my only complaints.
1 year, 5 months ago by dsample
are you around? can you log onto Sametime/IM for a few mins? I have a question about WTR csv files..
1 year, 5 months ago by runningwithbulls