@dka - that presentation clarified a lot of the stuff we touched upon in the pub the other night. You're right, it's not the destination (be it .mobi or m. or whatever) it's the what it looks like when you get there.. Best Practices etc.
maybe a question to take offline - but how can I get involved?
Interesting how the industry are arguing over the best thing for the mobile web etc (see earlier on in this thread) and Mippin forgets about what the industry wants.. And actually does what the user wants..
Internet Information for the user, while they are mobile.. Quick and simple. Forget compressing, re-sizing etc.. Just give me the info!
Dont forget the real security issues behind this 'cool' LBS stuff.. Your phone is a PERSONAL device.. It knows a lot about you.. But do not forget how open this is to abuse..
Finding the whole day pretty disappointing so far. A few useful nuggets but in general it feels like an extended MoMo day. Also, it's not really 'Future of mobile', it's more 'how to develop for mobile'
next up - Brian Fling of Blue Flavour on 'How the iphone will change the mobile space'
Before he starts - when I first saw this topic on the schedule I thought it was a bit of misnomer.. The iphone already has changed the mobile space/landscape... So.. Let's see what he has to say! :)
@pashazade - fair point dude... Were you expecting more of a futurist think tank?
obviously the 'future of...' brand is part of Carsonified's IP.. But yeah, maybe a more in depth description would be better beforehand.. 50 percent of this stuff is flying over my head as im not a developer..
I totally agree with pashazade, i was expecting to be wowed about the future of my industry. I wanted to go away with wicked ideas. So far I've learnt a bit about current standards for mobile web development. Where's the 'future thinking' :(
@whatleydude - no :) but I was expecting more stuff that was genuinly new and forward thinking. It feels like it's a 'mobile for web developers' conference
The iphone is shifting consumer perceptions of what mobile technology can do...
..for the record - @prashant said this exact same thing to me when we first met at the beginning of this year - "if the iphone only achieves one thing, it will be user education.."
Have a good evening guys, I'm actually buggering off after this presentation, due to my house going on the market since last night and a first potential buyer visiting tonight. :) Keep reporting so I can read about the last few presentations when I get home!
Maybe it's just this dude speaking... Times like these I look forward to the day I speak at my first conference... (and yes, that is on my list of short term goals)
@edc088 - you're not sticking around for beers later?
left on the schedule we have Julie Strawson, Matt Millar and then our last panel discussion...
@wd - been offered some very well paid work for the night which really cant afford to turn down! Seems very strange discussing on here considering you are just sat on my right...
questions echo presentation from Opera last week at w3c technical plenary about downloadable web fonts and the availability of open source non-licensed fonts. The support is in Opera and Webkit.
well, so far the Adobe guy has just critiqued the current mobile web... Maybe he's about to mention the future... Can we hear about something other than the mobile web now? Everyone seems to have forgotten that the NUMBER ONE USE FOR A MOBILE PHONE IS VOICE!
Lol - for the second time today 'Helen Keegan' (@technokitten) appears on the IMAX screen.. Both times via a facebook example.. First by Dan Appelquist and now by Matt Millar.. Hahaha...
he has a point about metro, if I'm on the train and I want to read news i'll read metro instead of using my phone... But I can't jaiku from Metro (or London Lite)
conferences like this could do with some new blood. Also with 2 tracks like FOWA, one for hardcore coders and one for business dev, advertising, community peeps. Also less linear plan ie. forum on social networks while a heavy tech panel goes on in another room...
Panel Discussion Time: Marek Pawlowski, Tom Hume and Barbara Ballard...
Tom Hume's the main draw here.. However, may de-camp early as my head really hurts.. Staring at IMAX sized powerpoint presentations REALLY screws with your eyes..
Thats one vote from Vero (i think) - right.. Next stop, my own event.. Oop no.. Got that covered with Mobile Geeks of London.. Ok.. So what now?
Hang on
not sure the MGoL would appreciate suddenly having speakers... Hmm.. Maybe i should start hawking my wares in the new year.. Hehehe
Yep - thanks all for these infroming comments since I also could not attend - it was almost like being there...(Martin Smith - not of blognation mind - the other one)
well, I was honestly disappointed by this conference. I know that "Future of..." is the Carsonified brand but the name should have been "The Mobile Web Today"... Probably the only foward thinking thing I heard was the Google stuff. Thank to @aksyn,@edw4rd, @whatleydude and the other mobile geeks for making it an enjoyable social event. Having attended FOWA I know that carsonified can do better. (disclaimer: I arrived late so missed the first few talks)
214 comments so far
Tony Fish - Like it like it likeit
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Great presentation.. Fastest slides in the west.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
biggest slides ever too, imax lends itself well to presentations
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
am standing at back of room top floor. Nice and packed!
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
"convergence assumes there is someone who wants to be converged on"
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
@vero - spare place next me if you want it. Im on the right hand side.. Row K
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"Motopia"
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I like Tony Fish and agree with a lot of what he's saying. Well thought out and well-articulated..
"The assumption of what is available on the web is what is wanted on the mobile web.. ..is utter bollocks"
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"The mobile web is not an extension of the internet..."
THANKYOU!!!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Context and Value... Your mobile is so personal to you. It knows where you are, what you're doing and who you're doing it with...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"The user is stupid, dont assume"
"Own the data"
"Dont forget voice when thinking about mobile"
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Great speech Tony... Digital footprint etc.. Awesomeness - hard act to follow!
..and now Luca of Admob takes the stage.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Surprise Surprise -2nd slide..
"VodafoneUK and Novarre are breaking the mobile web!"
To be fair to Luca, he has put it underneath Device Fragmentation!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
no surprise that Luca raises the Novarra issue by his 2nd slide. While he does have a point, he's a shit stirrer...
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
Slide 3..
"STOP VODAFONE AND NOVARRA!"
Brilliant!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
He is like a broken record .. It goes on and on and on
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
"In the history of the Internet, never has so much been said by so many that means so little to so few..."
Luca is growing on me.. Like this presentation too. Today is going to be a good day.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Vero, he has a significant point, Voda are conciously breaking the mobile web and don't seem to care
1 year, 7 months ago by jimh
@pashazade - he has met @dka right?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Luca. Lovely luca. At least 50% of what he's saying is true.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
He wont let go will he?
Had no idea he was this pissed about it...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@whatleydude - yup. And they were on the Mobile Web Iniative before Luca quit
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@dka - you here yet?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@dka -50%, that much!
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
I see.. Go back a long way then huh?
Jeez...
Ah well.. At least we're onto something else now.. WURFL.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@wd - he got here intime to be insulted by luca
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@wd - he'll have to come back to vodafone!
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Open Question:
If half of what he says is untrue - how is he allowed to speak? ..and who will put him right?
Discuss.
(while I try and work out what WURFL can do for me)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
did i catch that right? - luca manually adds the newly submitted data into wurfl?
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
@wd it is a 6mb xml file your dev guys may not appreciate the suggestion.
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
@kk - welcome to the FOM/Jaiku livestream! ;)
@pash - Maybe it's just me... But publicly insulting folk is really bad form.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@GYU - manually adding a 6mb xml file?
ouch
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@wd - I think its a gap in personality :)
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Luca: "time to move to xhtml." sharp intake of breath!
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
@wd - I think its a gap in personality :)
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
class response from jo Rabin. Knives will be flying low today.
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
co-chair of w3c stands and says luca is an angry man and mainly talking rubbish
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
@Vero - Agreed!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Luca is an angry dude...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Well, and politely, said from Jo Rabin.
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Here here!
Now I want to hear his response to Luca's comments...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
First break of the day.. Met up with more friends.. Mission to Starbucks then back for part two!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Ding Ding Round 2!
Andrea Trasatti - dot mobi dude...
'the truth about mobile web development standards'
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
.mobi
W3C
Mobile Web Initiative
Mobile OK & Best Practices
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
W3C Recommendation describes 60 Best Practices!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Interestingly... http://www.Mippin.com scores 4/5 at http://www.ready.mobi
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
The truth about standards:
creating standards is a HARD job
Standards should provide direction, tools help build applications
Standards should provide interoperability, fragmentation is not good for anyone
see: ready.mobi, site.mobi and their device database..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
WURFL vs .mobi
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
taptu.mobi scores 3. Must look at this when we get back to the office.
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@Vero - You have .mobi address?!
Shocking...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Andrea++
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
@wd yeah both com & mobi are in use.
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@vero - no m. ?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@dka - that presentation clarified a lot of the stuff we touched upon in the pub the other night. You're right, it's not the destination (be it .mobi or m. or whatever) it's the what it looks like when you get there.. Best Practices etc.
maybe a question to take offline - but how can I get involved?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Moving onto the Panel Discussiom.. Feat:
Steve Page of Mobile Commerce, Guillaume Peersman of Dialogue and Prashant Agarwal of Refresh Mobile (they of mippin fame).
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Mobile Google search results vs Web Google search results
Hehehe...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
damn, was hoping to catch the panel, I only need to go four stops on the train but it's sodding delayed
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
panel v interesting and state of search of mobile makes me feel confident that Taptu is doing the right thing re: mobile search.
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
"Mobile Context"
thank you Prash! A mobile web user is, by definition, MOBILE!
therefore the info is what is required - not the entire page...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Steve was good, Prash also.
:)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"Don't do lowest common denominator" - so right
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@pash - im nodding in agreement...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Mippin gets a 4 on .mobi we did a version that scored 5 but it didn't work well on many devices, tables are still best for some layout things.
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
@GYU - did you feed that back to .mobi/W3C?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@gyu - agreed, many devices need tables for layout. They just can't handle divs for layout, even with CSS
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Interesting how the industry are arguing over the best thing for the mobile web etc (see earlier on in this thread) and Mippin forgets about what the industry wants.. And actually does what the user wants..
Internet Information for the user, while they are mobile.. Quick and simple. Forget compressing, re-sizing etc.. Just give me the info!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@whatleydude is still marked as SPAM.. Will hand my phone to him so he can carry on.. Over to you Whatley
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
in my experience it can take hours ... Andrew is on nz time ...
1 year, 7 months ago by atmasphere
cheers @cervus - ok.. So next up Dan Appelquist on Mobile Ajax - (dan is on Jaiku as @dka by the way) -
His opening statement?
"As co-chair of the W3C and an employee of Vodafone.. I am not here to defend the indefensible.."
Fair play to you Dan.
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
@atmasphere - cheers for the update man.. Dammit!
Moving back to Dan - "In 5yrs time, will the majority of web usage be on the mobile?"
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
Hmm - wonder if I can post from the client..?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
IM probably still works as well
1 year, 7 months ago by atmasphere
W3C strives for 'one web'
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
Haven't got Jaiku plugged into my IM ...Hmmm... Need to rectify that one then!
Can someone shout me if I (@whatleydude) suddenly get turned back into non-spam?
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
Yikes, that sucks @whatley. Emailed Support on your behalf :)
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@vero - cheers honey.. Props to @cervus for letting me use his account!
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
go betavine go!
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
Nice one @dka
Next up - Charles McCathieNevile on the future of browsers..
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
And I'm back in the room - big love to @teemu!
this dude from opera is cool - bringing everyone down to Earth with some great observations...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Key points so far...
People want their data but still need security..
context depends on what I want
people move from device to device - so should their data
deliver to phones ... But not just to phones
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
A lot varying opinions going on..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
For those of you who aren't at the event - the slides from the presentations will be made available post-event apparently.. In case you're interested.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"2007 is the year of the widget?"
"On the desktop not on mobile..."
"Yeah, because I need another clock right?"
lol
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Charles presented at momo in the summer, cracking presentation blowing all the suits out of the water!
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
Dont forget the real security issues behind this 'cool' LBS stuff.. Your phone is a PERSONAL device.. It knows a lot about you.. But do not forget how open this is to abuse..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@vero - i can imagine - there's no BS with this guy whatsoever...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Want to know more..
labs.opera.com or dev.opera.com
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Finding the whole day pretty disappointing so far. A few useful nuggets but in general it feels like an extended MoMo day. Also, it's not really 'Future of mobile', it's more 'how to develop for mobile'
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Good presentation...
next up - Brian Fling of Blue Flavour on 'How the iphone will change the mobile space'
Before he starts - when I first saw this topic on the schedule I thought it was a bit of misnomer.. The iphone already has changed the mobile space/landscape... So.. Let's see what he has to say! :)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
when will luca shut his piehole? He bores me senseless. Thankfully, Charles rocks :)
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@pashazade - fair point dude... Were you expecting more of a futurist think tank?
obviously the 'future of...' brand is part of Carsonified's IP.. But yeah, maybe a more in depth description would be better beforehand.. 50 percent of this stuff is flying over my head as im not a developer..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@vero - tell me about it - it put me off talking to him in the break...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
It's Brian!
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
@vero - Luca.. not Charles!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I totally agree with pashazade, i was expecting to be wowed about the future of my industry. I wanted to go away with wicked ideas. So far I've learnt a bit about current standards for mobile web development. Where's the 'future thinking' :(
1 year, 7 months ago by Edwa3d
@vero - I hate the way he use a 'question' to state his point of view
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@Edwa3d - we'll do the future thinking at the pub.. ;)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Brian is a good speaker.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
Brian: "Jargon Alert: Mobile 2.0"
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@dka - agreed..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
"the mobile user experience sucks" yes!
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
yeah, I agree with Ed and Pashazade... I'd have seen more of the future of mobile sat at my desk
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@whatleydude - no :) but I was expecting more stuff that was genuinly new and forward thinking. It feels like it's a 'mobile for web developers' conference
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Mobile 2.0 = The Web
The Mobile Web browser is the nest killer app
Mobile web applications are the future
AJAX is the next frontier
Javascript kills battery life
The Mobile User Experience Sucks
Mobile widgets are the next big thing
The carrier is the new "C" word
People abuse the podium
We are creators not consumers
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
That was 10 things that Brian learned about Mobile 2.0.. Hehe
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@pash - good point, well made.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
that video was awesome
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@geekyouup - did you catch the details of that video?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@danlane - agreed!
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Video was a little US-centric.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
@danlane - yes it was - wanna find it on youtube - did you get any detail on it?
i want to reference it later..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
must get a hold of that vid. Excellent!
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
Business cards cut into an iphone stand? Nice...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Great comment on camphones
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
The iphone is shifting consumer perceptions of what mobile technology can do...
..for the record - @prashant said this exact same thing to me when we first met at the beginning of this year - "if the iphone only achieves one thing, it will be user education.."
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@dka - yes, but it resonated with people here
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@pashazade: totally, its good to see someone speaking who knows that megapixels do not equals quality!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
Controversial - "the iphone is the first 'mobile 2.0' device" - discuss...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Iphone
1) Smartphone for the masses
2) flat rate data
3) device sold and supported outside the carrier
4) no subsidization
5) updatable software
6) location awareness
7) bandwith expectations
8) portable device convergence
9) web and mobile standards
10) impact on web communities
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
(i need a wee!)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Brian was very, very good...
breaktime - followed by google talking about.. dun dun dun ..ANDROID!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@romek - it was actually quite informative...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
1 - Dave Burke from Google talking Open Handset Alliance and all things Android
2 - m.jaiku needs a 'jump to bottom' button
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
2.7billion phone users in the world..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Too.. Much.. Too.. Post..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Switching to my N95 - can type faster!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Dave's giving a demo of the UI for Android... Next - 'how to build an application..' - in 8mins!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Demo of Google Android in Eclipse - 8 minutes timed creation of Address Book tool
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@geekyouup - im sure this is making sense to you - care to explain?
in laymans terms?!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
That Demo was all kinds of awesome
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@danlane backseat coders in the house! ;)
So who's going to take part in the Developer Challenge?
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
I've heard of pair programming but this is ridiculous.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
Twitter just in from @prashant - "Watching live android programming. If I were an engineer this might be interesting, but I'm not. "
Couldnt have said it better myself... In other news - Google are hiring in Europe!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@danlane - care to explain to the nondevelopers of us out there?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I wonder if you could hang-glide inside the IMAX...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Next up - $imon Rockman of Sony Ericsson on 'How Devices Will Evolve'
Maybe THIS will be about the Future of Mobile?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I refer that question to @aksyn who does our mobile app devlopment
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@whatleydude @dka @danlane @Ed&Ed&Rich&Everyone...
Have a good evening guys, I'm actually buggering off after this presentation, due to my house going on the market since last night and a first potential buyer visiting tonight. :) Keep reporting so I can read about the last few presentations when I get home!
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
@vero - see you later lass.. Good luck with the house..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
argh, its lisa Simpson!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@vero gah, i didnt even see you!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
Wap push succeeded!
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Hmmm... Would anyone be too adverse to buggering off to the pub now?
Tom Hume is the only person left who I want to hear/see ...and my attention is slipping.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
pint of bitter here!
1 year, 7 months ago by atmasphere
gah I manged to spill coffee all over myself :(
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
"The hard thing about predicting the future is working out what is going to fail..."
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@wd - i could do a quick drink! Likewise losing interest and also got to head off around 5 for my evenings work...
1 year, 7 months ago by edc088
@danlane - ouch!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I want to see the ones about future of ui and customer retention ... And I'm all wet
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
Maybe it's just this dude speaking... Times like these I look forward to the day I speak at my first conference... (and yes, that is on my list of short term goals)
@edc088 - you're not sticking around for beers later?
left on the schedule we have Julie Strawson, Matt Millar and then our last panel discussion...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
phones that hit people.. the future of mobile!
1 year, 7 months ago by aksyn
wow, he has a blue convertable... Talk about midlife crisis!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
So much for convergence :)
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@danlane - UI - yeah maybe.. But it'll be about the iphone.. And Retention - i'll tell you everything you need to know! :p
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@wd - been offered some very well paid work for the night which really cant afford to turn down! Seems very strange discussing on here considering you are just sat on my right...
1 year, 7 months ago by edc088
1million Hours = 120 years
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Im numberblind...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@ed088 - was just thinking exactly the same thing.. Lol
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
4 million iPhones is still 1.6 billion dollars
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
What's with that last slide? "guys, I found this ball... But my thumbs got stuck"
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
and the right hand has a gimpy "beadle" finger
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@ed088 - but if u talked we couldn't overhear :)
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@danlane - I doubledare you to put your hand up to ask a question, wait for the dude to get to you and say something like.. 'dam, forgot' - hehe
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
wow, this guy is SO wrong about that multiple people thing!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@pash - lol, very true. @dan - beadle is here?? Should liven things up a bit...
1 year, 7 months ago by edc088
Mmm.. Mobile Typography up next! By Julie Strawson of Monotype Imaging..
Someone care to make notes while i nip to the loo?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
She used the default hold music from Asterisk!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
For someone talking about fonts, she's used some pretty crappy ones so far!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
OMG - it's about the future!
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
@dan - keep the notes coming...
1 year, 7 months ago by edc088
How do u get fonts on a device?
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Can i use italics on the mobile client? I want to go wild...
1 year, 7 months ago by edc088
@danlane. Agreed, awful fonts. Has she ever developed for mobile?
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Monotype company spiel - best blah blah, brands blah blah, international blah, blah
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Am so glad im in the Gary...
..just bumped into Martin Smith from Blognation.
:)
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
The solution: itype font engine, world type, mobile fonts
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Not in the gary obviously... Think I might sit this one out and head back in at half past..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Fonts In A Box
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
I think it only works in Java apps, not in the browser
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
And other phone based application.
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
I don't see anything new here
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Fonts in a box? Is that like a jack in a box?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Brian is getting a workout.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
@whatleydude - but a lot more boring
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
questions echo presentation from Opera last week at w3c technical plenary about downloadable web fonts and the availability of open source non-licensed fonts. The support is in Opera and Webkit.
1 year, 7 months ago by dka
Right - I'm back - Matt Millar of Adobe on The Next Generation of Mobile UI...
what you got Matt?
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
well, so far the Adobe guy has just critiqued the current mobile web... Maybe he's about to mention the future... Can we hear about something other than the mobile web now? Everyone seems to have forgotten that the NUMBER ONE USE FOR A MOBILE PHONE IS VOICE!
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
Lol - for the second time today 'Helen Keegan' (@technokitten) appears on the IMAX screen.. Both times via a facebook example.. First by Dan Appelquist and now by Matt Millar.. Hahaha...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
he has a point about metro, if I'm on the train and I want to read news i'll read metro instead of using my phone... But I can't jaiku from Metro (or London Lite)
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
@danlane - voice? Really? Awesome.. Maybe we need some way of being able to update your facebook using 'voice'. Now that is the future...
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1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@danlane - this is why i was such an advocate of mobizines - offline and up to date content...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
I HATE Yahoo Go! - it truly, truly sucks...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
matt miller is praising 'yahoo go' for its new interface
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
No offence towards Matt - he's a good speaker..the content is a bit bleedin-obvious mind..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Ok.. So if someone had written in MASSIVE letters on the brief to the speakers:
"Mobile Web users don't want a FULL web experience.. They want the important content, now. We know this. Dont spend all day telling us."
Then maybe we could've been done by lunchtime..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
@whatleydude: but then I'd have missed eveything
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
here here @whatleydude except android this pm hasn't been too stimulating
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
Man alive.. Ok - Quick straw poll - Should Whatley put himself forward to speak at one of these things?
i have zero experience and probably the same amount of respect too.. But there is SO much guff here!
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
flash-lite 3 will be able to play 99% of web content. Really?
1 year, 7 months ago by GeekYouUp
Hands up who's coming to the pub...
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
conferences like this could do with some new blood. Also with 2 tracks like FOWA, one for hardcore coders and one for business dev, advertising, community peeps. Also less linear plan ie. forum on social networks while a heavy tech panel goes on in another room...
1 year, 7 months ago by thatcanadiangirl
Panel Discussion Time: Marek Pawlowski, Tom Hume and Barbara Ballard...
Tom Hume's the main draw here.. However, may de-camp early as my head really hurts.. Staring at IMAX sized powerpoint presentations REALLY screws with your eyes..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Thats one vote from Vero (i think) - right.. Next stop, my own event.. Oop no.. Got that covered with Mobile Geeks of London.. Ok.. So what now? Hang on
not sure the MGoL would appreciate suddenly having speakers... Hmm.. Maybe i should start hawking my wares in the new year.. Hehehe
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Right.. Think Im gonna call it a day.. Anyone who's coming with - see you in the lobby.
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
207 comments?! Awesome..
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
great coverage, thanks all. this gives me a glimpse into the event (since I couldn't attend).
1 year, 7 months ago by CEO
heading to the official party
1 year, 7 months ago by cervus
@cervus and @whatleydude, we'll skip the party, but we could come to pub sometime around 8pm.
1 year, 7 months ago by teemu
@thatcanadiangirl - agreed, agreed and agreed. Quite a disappointing conference overall. The Jaiku chat was the most entertaining part :)
1 year, 7 months ago by pashazade
Yep - thanks all for these infroming comments since I also could not attend - it was almost like being there...(Martin Smith - not of blognation mind - the other one)
1 year, 7 months ago by mjsmith
Rats! I always miss out - am on train home to Cornwall
1 year, 7 months ago by Philhellene
well, I was honestly disappointed by this conference. I know that "Future of..." is the Carsonified brand but the name should have been "The Mobile Web Today"... Probably the only foward thinking thing I heard was the Google stuff. Thank to @aksyn,@edw4rd, @whatleydude and the other mobile geeks for making it an enjoyable social event. Having attended FOWA I know that carsonified can do better. (disclaimer: I arrived late so missed the first few talks)
1 year, 7 months ago by danlane
This was filmed in the pub afterwards...
Hehehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56x7O8TOGYQ
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude
Full(ish) write up can be found here
1 year, 7 months ago by whatleydude