@dka - that presentation
clarified a lot of the stuff we touched upon in the pub the other
night. You're right, it's not the destination (be it .mobi or m. or
whatever) it's the what it looks like when you get there.. Best
Practices etc.
maybe a question to take offline - but how can I get
involved?
Interesting how the industry are arguing over the best thing for
the mobile web etc (see earlier on in this thread) and Mippin
forgets about what the industry wants.. And actually does what the
user wants..
Internet Information for the user, while they are
mobile.. Quick and simple. Forget compressing, re-sizing etc.. Just
give me the info!
Dont forget the real security issues behind this 'cool'
LBS stuff.. Your phone is a PERSONAL device.. It knows a
lot about you.. But do not forget how open this is to
abuse..
Finding the whole day pretty disappointing so far. A few useful
nuggets but in general it feels like an extended MoMo day. Also,
it's not really 'Future of mobile', it's more 'how to develop for
mobile'
next up - Brian Fling of Blue Flavour on 'How the iphone
will change the mobile space'
Before he starts - when I first saw this topic on the schedule I
thought it was a bit of misnomer.. The iphone already has
changed the mobile space/landscape... So.. Let's see what he has to
say! :)
@pashazade - fair point
dude... Were you expecting more of a futurist think tank?
obviously the 'future of...' brand is part of Carsonified's IP..
But yeah, maybe a more in depth description would be better
beforehand.. 50 percent of this stuff is flying over my head as im
not a developer..
I totally agree with pashazade, i was expecting to be wowed
about the future of my industry. I wanted to go away with wicked
ideas. So far I've learnt a bit about current standards for mobile
web development. Where's the 'future thinking' :(
@whatleydude - no :)
but I was expecting more stuff that was genuinly new and forward
thinking. It feels like it's a 'mobile for web developers'
conference
The iphone is shifting consumer perceptions of what mobile
technology can do...
..for the record - @prashant said this exact same thing
to me when we first met at the beginning of this year - "if the
iphone only achieves one thing, it will be user education.."
Have a good evening guys, I'm actually buggering off after this
presentation, due to my house going on the market since last night
and a first potential buyer visiting tonight. :) Keep reporting so
I can read about the last few presentations when I get home!
Maybe it's just this dude speaking... Times like these I look
forward to the day I speak at my first conference... (and yes, that
is on my list of short term goals)
@edc088 - you're not
sticking around for beers later?
left on the schedule we have Julie Strawson, Matt Millar and
then our last panel discussion...
@wd - been offered some very
well paid work for the night which really cant afford to turn down!
Seems very strange discussing on here considering you are just sat
on my right...
questions echo presentation from Opera last week at w3c
technical plenary about downloadable web fonts and the availability
of open source non-licensed fonts. The support is in Opera and
Webkit.
well, so far the Adobe guy has just critiqued the current mobile
web... Maybe he's about to mention the future... Can we hear about
something other than the mobile web now? Everyone seems to have
forgotten that the NUMBER ONE USE FOR A MOBILE PHONE IS VOICE!
Lol - for the second time today 'Helen Keegan' (@technokitten)
appears on the IMAX screen.. Both times via a facebook example..
First by Dan Appelquist and now by Matt Millar.. Hahaha...
he has a point about metro, if I'm on the train and I want to
read news i'll read metro instead of using my phone... But I can't
jaiku from Metro (or London Lite)
216 comments so far
Tony Fish - Like it like it likeit
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Great presentation.. Fastest slides in the west.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
biggest slides ever too, imax lends itself well to presentations
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
am standing at back of room top floor. Nice and packed!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
"convergence assumes there is someone who wants to be converged on"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
@vero - spare place next me if you want it. Im on the right hand side.. Row K
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"Motopia"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
I like Tony Fish and agree with a lot of what he's saying. Well thought out and well-articulated..
"The assumption of what is available on the web is what is wanted on the mobile web.. ..is utter bollocks"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"The mobile web is not an extension of the internet..."
THANKYOU!!!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Context and Value... Your mobile is so personal to you. It knows where you are, what you're doing and who you're doing it with...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"The user is stupid, dont assume"
"Own the data"
"Dont forget voice when thinking about mobile"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Great speech Tony... Digital footprint etc.. Awesomeness - hard act to follow!
..and now Luca of Admob takes the stage.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Surprise Surprise -2nd slide..
"VodafoneUK and Novarre are breaking the mobile web!"
To be fair to Luca, he has put it underneath Device Fragmentation!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
no surprise that Luca raises the Novarra issue by his 2nd slide. While he does have a point, he's a shit stirrer...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
Slide 3..
"STOP VODAFONE AND NOVARRA!"
Brilliant!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
He is like a broken record .. It goes on and on and on
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
"In the history of the Internet, never has so much been said by so many that means so little to so few..."
Luca is growing on me.. Like this presentation too. Today is going to be a good day.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Vero, he has a significant point, Voda are conciously breaking the mobile web and don't seem to care
9 months, 4 weeks ago by jimh.
@pashazade - he has met @dka right?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Luca. Lovely luca. At least 50% of what he's saying is true.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
He wont let go will he?
Had no idea he was this pissed about it...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@whatleydude - yup. And they were on the Mobile Web Iniative before Luca quit
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@dka - you here yet?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@dka -50%, that much!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
I see.. Go back a long way then huh?
Jeez...
Ah well.. At least we're onto something else now.. WURFL.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@wd - he got here intime to be insulted by luca
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Damn straight users are stupid and they call me everyday :-( job security i suppose.. Lol
9 months, 4 weeks ago by krazykritter.
@wd - he'll have to come back to vodafone!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
I've heard and read good and bad about wurfl, i don't see what the stink is all about..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by krazykritter.
Open Question:
If half of what he says is untrue - how is he allowed to speak? ..and who will put him right?
Discuss.
(while I try and work out what WURFL can do for me)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
did i catch that right? - luca manually adds the newly submitted data into wurfl?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
@wd it is a 6mb xml file your dev guys may not appreciate the suggestion.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
@kk - welcome to the FOM/Jaiku livestream! ;)
@pash - Maybe it's just me... But publicly insulting folk is really bad form.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@GYU - manually adding a 6mb xml file?
ouch
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@wd - I think its a gap in personality :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Luca: "time to move to xhtml." sharp intake of breath!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
@wd - I think its a gap in personality :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
class response from jo Rabin. Knives will be flying low today.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
co-chair of w3c stands and says luca is an angry man and mainly talking rubbish
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
@Vero - Agreed!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Luca is an angry dude...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Well, and politely, said from Jo Rabin.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Here here!
Now I want to hear his response to Luca's comments...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
First break of the day.. Met up with more friends.. Mission to Starbucks then back for part two!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Ding Ding Round 2!
Andrea Trasatti - dot mobi dude...
'the truth about mobile web development standards'
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
.mobi
W3C
Mobile Web Initiative
Mobile OK & Best Practices
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
W3C Recommendation describes 60 Best Practices!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Interestingly... http://www.Mippin.com scores 4/5 at http://www.ready.mobi
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
The truth about standards:
creating standards is a HARD job
Standards should provide direction, tools help build applications
Standards should provide interoperability, fragmentation is not good for anyone
see: ready.mobi, site.mobi and their device database..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
WURFL vs .mobi
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
taptu.mobi scores 3. Must look at this when we get back to the office.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@Vero - You have .mobi address?!
Shocking...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Andrea++
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
@wd yeah both com & mobi are in use.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@vero - no m. ?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@dka - that presentation clarified a lot of the stuff we touched upon in the pub the other night. You're right, it's not the destination (be it .mobi or m. or whatever) it's the what it looks like when you get there.. Best Practices etc.
maybe a question to take offline - but how can I get involved?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Moving onto the Panel Discussiom.. Feat:
Steve Page of Mobile Commerce, Guillaume Peersman of Dialogue and Prashant Agarwal of Refresh Mobile (they of mippin fame).
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Mobile Google search results vs Web Google search results
Hehehe...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
damn, was hoping to catch the panel, I only need to go four stops on the train but it's sodding delayed
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
panel v interesting and state of search of mobile makes me feel confident that Taptu is doing the right thing re: mobile search.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
"Mobile Context"
thank you Prash! A mobile web user is, by definition, MOBILE!
therefore the info is what is required - not the entire page...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Steve was good, Prash also.
:)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"Don't do lowest common denominator" - so right
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@pash - im nodding in agreement...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Mippin gets a 4 on .mobi we did a version that scored 5 but it didn't work well on many devices, tables are still best for some layout things.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by GeekYouUp.
@GYU - did you feed that back to .mobi/W3C?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@gyu - agreed, many devices need tables for layout. They just can't handle divs for layout, even with CSS
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Interesting how the industry are arguing over the best thing for the mobile web etc (see earlier on in this thread) and Mippin forgets about what the industry wants.. And actually does what the user wants..
Internet Information for the user, while they are mobile.. Quick and simple. Forget compressing, re-sizing etc.. Just give me the info!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@whatleydude is still marked as SPAM.. Will hand my phone to him so he can carry on.. Over to you Whatley
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
in my experience it can take hours ... Andrew is on nz time ...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by atmasphere.
cheers @cervus - ok.. So next up Dan Appelquist on Mobile Ajax - (dan is on Jaiku as @dka by the way) -
His opening statement?
"As co-chair of the W3C and an employee of Vodafone.. I am not here to defend the indefensible.."
Fair play to you Dan.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
@atmasphere - cheers for the update man.. Dammit!
Moving back to Dan - "In 5yrs time, will the majority of web usage be on the mobile?"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
Hmm - wonder if I can post from the client..?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
IM probably still works as well
9 months, 4 weeks ago by atmasphere.
W3C strives for 'one web'
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
Haven't got Jaiku plugged into my IM ...Hmmm... Need to rectify that one then!
Can someone shout me if I (@whatleydude) suddenly get turned back into non-spam?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
Yikes, that sucks @whatley. Emailed Support on your behalf :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@vero - cheers honey.. Props to @cervus for letting me use his account!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
go betavine go!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
Nice one @dka
Next up - Charles McCathieNevile on the future of browsers..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by cervus.
And I'm back in the room - big love to @teemu!
this dude from opera is cool - bringing everyone down to Earth with some great observations...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Key points so far...
People want their data but still need security..
context depends on what I want
people move from device to device - so should their data
deliver to phones ... But not just to phones
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
A lot varying opinions going on..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
For those of you who aren't at the event - the slides from the presentations will be made available post-event apparently.. In case you're interested.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"2007 is the year of the widget?"
"On the desktop not on mobile..."
"Yeah, because I need another clock right?"
lol
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Charles presented at momo in the summer, cracking presentation blowing all the suits out of the water!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
Dont forget the real security issues behind this 'cool' LBS stuff.. Your phone is a PERSONAL device.. It knows a lot about you.. But do not forget how open this is to abuse..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@vero - i can imagine - there's no BS with this guy whatsoever...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Want to know more..
labs.opera.com or dev.opera.com
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Finding the whole day pretty disappointing so far. A few useful nuggets but in general it feels like an extended MoMo day. Also, it's not really 'Future of mobile', it's more 'how to develop for mobile'
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Good presentation...
next up - Brian Fling of Blue Flavour on 'How the iphone will change the mobile space'
Before he starts - when I first saw this topic on the schedule I thought it was a bit of misnomer.. The iphone already has changed the mobile space/landscape... So.. Let's see what he has to say! :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
when will luca shut his piehole? He bores me senseless. Thankfully, Charles rocks :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@pashazade - fair point dude... Were you expecting more of a futurist think tank?
obviously the 'future of...' brand is part of Carsonified's IP.. But yeah, maybe a more in depth description would be better beforehand.. 50 percent of this stuff is flying over my head as im not a developer..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@vero - tell me about it - it put me off talking to him in the break...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
It's Brian!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
@vero - Luca.. not Charles!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
I totally agree with pashazade, i was expecting to be wowed about the future of my industry. I wanted to go away with wicked ideas. So far I've learnt a bit about current standards for mobile web development. Where's the 'future thinking' :(
9 months, 4 weeks ago by Edwa3d.
@vero - I hate the way he use a 'question' to state his point of view
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@Edwa3d - we'll do the future thinking at the pub.. ;)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Brian is a good speaker.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
Brian: "Jargon Alert: Mobile 2.0"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@dka - agreed..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
"the mobile user experience sucks" yes!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
yeah, I agree with Ed and Pashazade... I'd have seen more of the future of mobile sat at my desk
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@whatleydude - no :) but I was expecting more stuff that was genuinly new and forward thinking. It feels like it's a 'mobile for web developers' conference
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Mobile 2.0 = The Web
The Mobile Web browser is the nest killer app
Mobile web applications are the future
AJAX is the next frontier
Javascript kills battery life
The Mobile User Experience Sucks
Mobile widgets are the next big thing
The carrier is the new "C" word
People abuse the podium
We are creators not consumers
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
That was 10 things that Brian learned about Mobile 2.0.. Hehe
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@pash - good point, well made.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
that video was awesome
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@geekyouup - did you catch the details of that video?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@danlane - agreed!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Video was a little US-centric.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
@danlane - yes it was - wanna find it on youtube - did you get any detail on it?
i want to reference it later..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
must get a hold of that vid. Excellent!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
Business cards cut into an iphone stand? Nice...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Great comment on camphones
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
The iphone is shifting consumer perceptions of what mobile technology can do...
..for the record - @prashant said this exact same thing to me when we first met at the beginning of this year - "if the iphone only achieves one thing, it will be user education.."
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@dka - yes, but it resonated with people here
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@pashazade: totally, its good to see someone speaking who knows that megapixels do not equals quality!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
Controversial - "the iphone is the first 'mobile 2.0' device" - discuss...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Iphone
1) Smartphone for the masses
2) flat rate data
3) device sold and supported outside the carrier
4) no subsidization
5) updatable software
6) location awareness
7) bandwith expectations
8) portable device convergence
9) web and mobile standards
10) impact on web communities
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
(i need a wee!)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Brian was very, very good...
breaktime - followed by google talking about.. dun dun dun ..ANDROID!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@romek - it was actually quite informative...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
1 - Dave Burke from Google talking Open Handset Alliance and all things Android
2 - m.jaiku needs a 'jump to bottom' button
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
2.7billion phone users in the world..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Too.. Much.. Too.. Post..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Switching to my N95 - can type faster!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Dave's giving a demo of the UI for Android... Next - 'how to build an application..' - in 8mins!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Demo of Google Android in Eclipse - 8 minutes timed creation of Address Book tool
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@geekyouup - im sure this is making sense to you - care to explain?
in laymans terms?!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
That Demo was all kinds of awesome
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@danlane backseat coders in the house! ;)
So who's going to take part in the Developer Challenge?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
I've heard of pair programming but this is ridiculous.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
Twitter just in from @prashant - "Watching live android programming. If I were an engineer this might be interesting, but I'm not. "
Couldnt have said it better myself... In other news - Google are hiring in Europe!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@danlane - care to explain to the nondevelopers of us out there?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
I wonder if you could hang-glide inside the IMAX...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Next up - $imon Rockman of Sony Ericsson on 'How Devices Will Evolve'
Maybe THIS will be about the Future of Mobile?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
I refer that question to @aksyn who does our mobile app devlopment
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@whatleydude @dka @danlane @Ed&Ed&Rich&Everyone...
Have a good evening guys, I'm actually buggering off after this presentation, due to my house going on the market since last night and a first potential buyer visiting tonight. :) Keep reporting so I can read about the last few presentations when I get home!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by thatcanadiangirl.
@vero - see you later lass.. Good luck with the house..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
argh, its lisa Simpson!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@vero gah, i didnt even see you!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
Wap push succeeded!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Hmmm... Would anyone be too adverse to buggering off to the pub now?
Tom Hume is the only person left who I want to hear/see ...and my attention is slipping.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
pint of bitter here!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by atmasphere.
gah I manged to spill coffee all over myself :(
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
"The hard thing about predicting the future is working out what is going to fail..."
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@wd - i could do a quick drink! Likewise losing interest and also got to head off around 5 for my evenings work...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by edc088.
@danlane - ouch!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
I want to see the ones about future of ui and customer retention ... And I'm all wet
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
Maybe it's just this dude speaking... Times like these I look forward to the day I speak at my first conference... (and yes, that is on my list of short term goals)
@edc088 - you're not sticking around for beers later?
left on the schedule we have Julie Strawson, Matt Millar and then our last panel discussion...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
phones that hit people.. the future of mobile!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by aksyn.
wow, he has a blue convertable... Talk about midlife crisis!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
So much for convergence :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@danlane - UI - yeah maybe.. But it'll be about the iphone.. And Retention - i'll tell you everything you need to know! :p
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@wd - been offered some very well paid work for the night which really cant afford to turn down! Seems very strange discussing on here considering you are just sat on my right...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by edc088.
1million Hours = 120 years
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Im numberblind...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
@ed088 - was just thinking exactly the same thing.. Lol
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
4 million iPhones is still 1.6 billion dollars
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
What's with that last slide? "guys, I found this ball... But my thumbs got stuck"
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
and the right hand has a gimpy "beadle" finger
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@ed088 - but if u talked we couldn't overhear :)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@danlane - I doubledare you to put your hand up to ask a question, wait for the dude to get to you and say something like.. 'dam, forgot' - hehe
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
wow, this guy is SO wrong about that multiple people thing!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
@pash - lol, very true. @dan - beadle is here?? Should liven things up a bit...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by edc088.
Mmm.. Mobile Typography up next! By Julie Strawson of Monotype Imaging..
Someone care to make notes while i nip to the loo?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
She used the default hold music from Asterisk!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
For someone talking about fonts, she's used some pretty crappy ones so far!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
OMG - it's about the future!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
@dan - keep the notes coming...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by edc088.
How do u get fonts on a device?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Can i use italics on the mobile client? I want to go wild...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by edc088.
@danlane. Agreed, awful fonts. Has she ever developed for mobile?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Monotype company spiel - best blah blah, brands blah blah, international blah, blah
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Am so glad im in the Gary...
..just bumped into Martin Smith from Blognation.
:)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
The solution: itype font engine, world type, mobile fonts
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Not in the gary obviously... Think I might sit this one out and head back in at half past..
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Fonts In A Box
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
I think it only works in Java apps, not in the browser
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
And other phone based application.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
I don't see anything new here
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
Fonts in a box? Is that like a jack in a box?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
Brian is getting a workout.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
@whatleydude - but a lot more boring
9 months, 4 weeks ago by pashazade.
questions echo presentation from Opera last week at w3c technical plenary about downloadable web fonts and the availability of open source non-licensed fonts. The support is in Opera and Webkit.
9 months, 4 weeks ago by dka.
Right - I'm back - Matt Millar of Adobe on The Next Generation of Mobile UI...
what you got Matt?
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
well, so far the Adobe guy has just critiqued the current mobile web... Maybe he's about to mention the future... Can we hear about something other than the mobile web now? Everyone seems to have forgotten that the NUMBER ONE USE FOR A MOBILE PHONE IS VOICE!
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.
Lol - for the second time today 'Helen Keegan' (@technokitten) appears on the IMAX screen.. Both times via a facebook example.. First by Dan Appelquist and now by Matt Millar.. Hahaha...
9 months, 4 weeks ago by whatleydude.
he has a point about metro, if I'm on the train and I want to read news i'll read metro instead of using my phone... But I can't jaiku from Metro (or London Lite)
9 months, 4 weeks ago by danlane.